• WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 days ago

    Yes.

    They’re hyperfocused on states rights. Fine. Here’s the thing though - with rights come responsibilities. One can’t claim the right to make one’s own decisions, then dodge the responsibility for those decisions.

    They.make their choices, they have to deal with the consequences themselves.

    So they can grow the fuck up and join the modern world, or they can just wallow in their ignorance and incompetence. It’s their problem - not ours.

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      7 days ago

      So instead of ignoring the fuckups of countries all over the world we are expected to ignore them here as well. Clearly ignoring the problem is not working.

      Seems like we are playing right into their hands and sacrificing our own citizens in the name of politics.

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          7 days ago

          That is just pure propaganda. They are not anymore hateful than you or I. They have been led astray.

          I get it, othering is as appealing as it is toxic.

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        7 days ago

        The mistake isn’t ignoring the problem - it’s subsidizing it.

        They’re free to continue to be ignorant, short-sighted fuckups because we’re there to bail their pathetic asses out.

        If we’re going to bail them out, then that means we’re taking responsibility, and if we’re taking responsibility then they’re going to sit the fuck down and shut the fick up and do as they’re told, because obviously they can’t take care of themselves.

        And if, on the other hand, they’re going to do as they please, then it’s not our responsibility - it’s theirs. And if they can’t bail themselves out of the trouble they’ve caused for themselves, that’s their own fucking problem.

        It has to be one or the other. Authority without responsibility just creates moral hazard. Either they have the aurhority, in which case they also have the responsibility, or we have the responsibility, in which case we also have the authority.