• Zephorah@discuss.online
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    3 days ago

    There are so many factors that impact obesity, hunger, eating habits, it’s a tangled web of interaction effects.

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      3 days ago

      Because we fail to think of/treat things holistically, preferring a quick fix of targeting components. Specialized treatment has a place but it’s better to integrate it with holistic thinking, if not treatment.

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        Because we fail to think of/treat things holistically

        what specifically do you mean? you think doctors don’t tell obese patients to eat better, exercise more, or seek psychotherapy? If so, that’s nonsense, of course they do.

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          A heart specialist may very well tell an obese patient these things, but are they going to spend billable hours that insurance companies deny payment to dig deeper to ask questions and write referrals? Is the primary care team going to fight to get more than six therapy sessions paid? To approve and pay for a gym membership?

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            if you’re seeing a cardiologist you’re well beyond the point of basic holistic health troubleshooting. that’s something your regular GP handles, THEN if that doesn’t help they refer you to a cardiologist for heart specialized care. it would be a waste of your time and money for a cardiologist to be talking to you about anything outside their speciality. that’s the entire reason your have an appointment with them, to focus on specific issues your GP can’t handle.

            If you go see a “holistic” doctor for heart problems instead of a cardiologist you’re gonna have a bad time.

      • Jake Farm@sopuli.xyz
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        2 days ago

        Holistic treatments is diet and exercise. And the people that works for dont take these drugs.

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            Half of the degrees used by holistic doctors are pseudoscience with little to no evidence supporting them. Chiropracty has proven to be more damaging than helpful and have gotten people paralyzed and even killed.

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              Yep. That’s why I said integrative. Let me be clear: I mean doctors with medical degrees that would consider the diagnosis in relation to sleep, diet, physical and mental stressors, lack of/exercise etc.

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                I was going based on the article you linked. But I can see a true medical doctor working with and coordinating the patients and their specualist doctors would be valuable.