After teasing a plan by President Donald Trump to extend Affordable Care Act premium subsidies—currently on track to end within weeks—the White House has indefinitely delayed the announcement under pressure from congressional Republicans, MS NOW reported on Monday.

The last-minute change of plan signals the GOP’s priorities: the party has fought to cut or repeal the ACA since it entered law in 2010, and was uncompromising in opposing the subsidies during the record-breaking government shutdown that ended earlier in November.

The last thing Republican elected officials want to see, the Center for American Progress’ Bobby Kagan posted on social media Monday, is a deal that protects ACA subsidies.

“That’s why they didn’t extend them in OBBBA, and that’s why they kept calling them a ‘December problem’ even though open enrollment began on November 1,” Kagan, the group’s senior director for federal budget policy, wrote.

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    What you don’t cite, what you claimed and what I asked you to cite, is how many people don’t skip going to the doctor because of the ACA.

    Not zero, no doubt, that’s my point; it provides enough relief to stifle revolution. No where near 100%, which is what socialized healthcare providers.

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      It absolutely does show exactly what I claimed an what you asked. Uninsured skip doctors, the ACA reduced uninsured and mortality rates. Literally the thing you just described.

      If you wanted more than what we got then you would support the DNC who did not have enough votes to pass the public option version nor have even had more than 48 seats in over ten years following.

      You don’t want that, though. Like you said, you want revolution, no matter how many rights you have to trample or impoverished you have to kill in the process.

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        What you aren’t getting is that it doesn’t matter if more people are going to the doctor, they still aren’t getting the health care they need.

        People in other countries are living 4 years longer on average, using the horrible socialized medicine that MAGAs are constantly screaming is going to kill us all.

        Our wonderful system is killing us 4 years earlier than their evil system. I’m ready to try their evil system.

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          14 hours ago

          The German Healthcare System is identical to the DNC plan that couldnt pass because of lone Independent Senator Leiberman.

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        You’re just reacting, you’re not listening.

        Uninsured skip doctors, ACA reduced uninsured. There are still too many uninsured. Insured still skip doctors, because deductibles are too high. Health insurance in the US is more accurately bankruptcy insurance, a lot of insured don’t receive sufficient healthcare because they cannot afford anything outside of an annual visit plus regular tests. Anything that needs a specialist is often put off until it’s an emergency.

        Your citation is irrelevant to what I’m saying.

        1. "In Q1 2024, the estimated uninsured rate for the full population is 8.2 percent, which corresponds to 27.1 million individuals without insurance. "

        Note that this is an estimate based on a survey. The ACA doesn’t provide a mechanism to tally the number of insured, and this survey tries to be representative, but could be way under reported.

        https://aspe.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/documents/ee0475e44e27daef00155e95a24fd023/nhis-q1-2024-datapoint.pdf#%3A~%3Atext=In+Q1+2024%2C+the+estimated+uninsured+rate%2C300+million+Americans+have+health+insurance+coverage.

        That’s over 27 million people the ACA leaves behind, because it isn’t a sufficient system for the richest country in the world, where healthcare should be a right.

        1. “Over the past year, 22% of Americans say they have steered clear of some sort of medical care — including doctor visits, medications, vaccinations, annual exams, screenings, vision checks and routine blood work — because of the expense”

        Again, once insured, people still skip the doctor because insurance deductables are insanely high.

        https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/nearly-1-in-4-americans-are-skipping-medical-care-because-of-the-cost.html#%3A~%3Atext=Over+the+past+year%2C+22%2Cprescription+drug%2C+according+to+Kaiser.

        1. “Uninsured adults are more likely to forgo needed care than their insured counterparts. In 2023, nearly half (46.6%) of uninsured adults ages 18 to 64 reported not seeing a doctor or health care professional in the past 12 months compared to 15.6% with private insurance and 14.2% with public coverage.”

        15% of insured Americans skip the doctor because it’s too expensive.

        https://www.kff.org/uninsured/key-facts-about-the-uninsured-population/

        You deserve better than the ACA, you should demand better.

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          “You’re not listening!” screams man who says even one less injured, sick, or even dying is actually a worse system.

          “I care about all the people we could be saving!” he says, while promoting abstaining from voting for the party who has done all.of the saving to date.

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            5 hours ago

            You truly are homeless hopeless. When they finally turn your back on you, none of us will be left to stand up for you.

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              You know who love Homeless? Republicans, which must be why under Reagan they defunded the US Mental Asylum system creating massive homelessness problems we see today.