France’s put up a lot more mass surveillance these days. The fact that the French state tries to blackmail defenders of privacy, should tell you enough.
Yeah the most secure android operating system vs a bunch of custom roms which are significantly less secure than stock due to less updates, being less hardened, and using insecure components (like reverse engineered gapps)
Secure from what? Security isn’t a dick measuring contest, it’s a living process and arms race. If someone is trying to tell me, “My stuff is the mostest of the biggest security because, hard!” - what I’m hearing is that their threat modeling is ill-defined, maybe not defined at all, and something misleading is going on. Especially when the lead dev of a platform appears to be screaming and shouting about everyone else with a dubious persecution complex.
You could literally read the GraphineOS documentation whenever you want where it clearly outlines how their hardening works, what security systems they have in place, and how their encryption works. I will warn you its incredibly technical, of course you wouldn’t know that because people like you who cant bother to even look at the website (https://www.grapheneos.org/features) wouldn’t know what any of it acturally means.
Tldr: for people who dont understand technical terminology they can trust the project, for people who do they can literally just read the documentation
imo it’s not a coincidence the public are being steered away from supporting graphene. it’s one thing to see the general public do this (they will do whatever their told), but seeing countless people who supposedly should know better its quite disturbing.
CoyoteFacts posted those videos above https://youtu.be/Dx7CZ-2Bajghttps://youtu.be/4To-F6W1NT0 so it seems like the other side is literally everyone, from every other android project, random other software, to big yt channels that actually promote GrapheneOS… I wonder how long it will take for the lead dev to start saying his own userbase is after him…
Pixels are very expensive in my country but I was looking forward acquiring one in the future, if my finances permitted, just because of GrapheneOS… but honestly, after discovering its creator is a real mental case, unless the project gets forked out of his control, I wouldn’t trust it.
but honestly, after discovering its creator is a real mental case, unless the project gets forked out of his control, I wouldn’t trust it.
I know it’s different (Lemmy isn’t supposed to protect your privacy) but are you familiar with Lenny’s lead developer? Interesting fellow, to say the least.
So in the drama between the Graphene team vs every other privacy-focused Android dev - who should I trust?
Both, and probably more Graphene.
France’s put up a lot more mass surveillance these days. The fact that the French state tries to blackmail defenders of privacy, should tell you enough.
Yeah the most secure android operating system vs a bunch of custom roms which are significantly less secure than stock due to less updates, being less hardened, and using insecure components (like reverse engineered gapps)
Secure from what? Security isn’t a dick measuring contest, it’s a living process and arms race. If someone is trying to tell me, “My stuff is the mostest of the biggest security because, hard!” - what I’m hearing is that their threat modeling is ill-defined, maybe not defined at all, and something misleading is going on. Especially when the lead dev of a platform appears to be screaming and shouting about everyone else with a dubious persecution complex.
You could literally read the GraphineOS documentation whenever you want where it clearly outlines how their hardening works, what security systems they have in place, and how their encryption works. I will warn you its incredibly technical, of course you wouldn’t know that because people like you who cant bother to even look at the website (https://www.grapheneos.org/features) wouldn’t know what any of it acturally means.
Tldr: for people who dont understand technical terminology they can trust the project, for people who do they can literally just read the documentation
well said!
imo it’s not a coincidence the public are being steered away from supporting graphene. it’s one thing to see the general public do this (they will do whatever their told), but seeing countless people who supposedly should know better its quite disturbing.
Examples of who is on the other side besides “everyone”?
CoyoteFacts posted those videos above https://youtu.be/Dx7CZ-2Bajg https://youtu.be/4To-F6W1NT0 so it seems like the other side is literally everyone, from every other android project, random other software, to big yt channels that actually promote GrapheneOS… I wonder how long it will take for the lead dev to start saying his own userbase is after him…
Pixels are very expensive in my country but I was looking forward acquiring one in the future, if my finances permitted, just because of GrapheneOS… but honestly, after discovering its creator is a real mental case, unless the project gets forked out of his control, I wouldn’t trust it.
I know it’s different (Lemmy isn’t supposed to protect your privacy) but are you familiar with Lenny’s lead developer? Interesting fellow, to say the least.
Lemmy is federated and not an OS. Many different clients also.
Don’t trust graphene lol