To be fair to liberals, liberalism is also a system to take care of your neighbors.
Liberalism is basically capitalism with patches. Public option health care, government contractors, food stamps, tuition assistance, bus vouchers, child tax credits.
Socialism is a capitalism replacement. Universal health care, government organizations, free government grocery stores, free education, free public transportation, free day care.
Both groups on the left care about their neighbors.
Liberalism isn’t an economic system.
It’s a political & moral philosophy from the Enlightenment that holds governments exist for the people & authority is legitimate only when it protects inalienable/fundamental/inherent rights & liberties of individuals.
The people have an inherent right to obtain a government with legitimate authority, and when their government lacks or loses legitimacy, the people have a right & duty replace or change that government until it obtains legitimacy.
Liberal governments can & do include some with social market economies (eg, social democracies in Europe).
Nothing you listed there is liberalism. Those are all things liberals fought tooth and nail against. They were forced on liberals who decided it was better to allow them to exist because otherwise we would tear down capitalism which is what Liberals are actually about.
It really doesn’t. That’s just something Americans liberals try to sell so people they don’t realize how liberals are always working against their interests.
My comment was absolutely applied to American politics.
I mean you aren’t wrong when it comes to American liberal politicians. That’s just the differences between liberalism and socialism in theory, the actual differences in practice is another story.
In short? Capitalists. Liberals are capitalists. The birth of liberalism goes hand in hand with the birth of capitalism. The liberal revolutions were capitalist revolutions. Everything stems from that inescapable fact of history. It’s the one aspect of liberals that dominates everything about them and colors every single decision they make. Everything else is just window dressing that can be thrown away at their leisure. If you want to understand liberals you have to understand that.
So, you’re a communist is what you’re saying. Name one communist country in the history of the world that has lasted longer than 10 years. You introduce greeds, it’s impossible.
To be fair to liberals, liberalism is also a system to take care of your neighbors.
Liberalism is basically capitalism with patches. Public option health care, government contractors, food stamps, tuition assistance, bus vouchers, child tax credits.
Socialism is a capitalism replacement. Universal health care, government organizations, free government grocery stores, free education, free public transportation, free day care.
Both groups on the left care about their neighbors.
Liberalism isn’t an economic system. It’s a political & moral philosophy from the Enlightenment that holds governments exist for the people & authority is legitimate only when it protects inalienable/fundamental/inherent rights & liberties of individuals. The people have an inherent right to obtain a government with legitimate authority, and when their government lacks or loses legitimacy, the people have a right & duty replace or change that government until it obtains legitimacy.
Liberal governments can & do include some with social market economies (eg, social democracies in Europe).
Nothing you listed there is liberalism. Those are all things liberals fought tooth and nail against. They were forced on liberals who decided it was better to allow them to exist because otherwise we would tear down capitalism which is what Liberals are actually about.
I guess I should specified Modern Liberalism in the United States. Since liberalism means something else outside the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_liberalism_in_the_United_States
It really doesn’t. That’s just something Americans liberals try to sell so people they don’t realize how liberals are always working against their interests.
My comment was absolutely applied to American politics.
I mean you aren’t wrong when it comes to American liberal politicians. That’s just the differences between liberalism and socialism in theory, the actual differences in practice is another story.
I think you should give a definition of what you think a liberal is. You’re just confusing the issue by not saying what you mean.
In short? Capitalists. Liberals are capitalists. The birth of liberalism goes hand in hand with the birth of capitalism. The liberal revolutions were capitalist revolutions. Everything stems from that inescapable fact of history. It’s the one aspect of liberals that dominates everything about them and colors every single decision they make. Everything else is just window dressing that can be thrown away at their leisure. If you want to understand liberals you have to understand that.
So, you’re a communist is what you’re saying. Name one communist country in the history of the world that has lasted longer than 10 years. You introduce greeds, it’s impossible.