This is like your boss finding shit to do when there’s nothing to do.
Was scouts supposed to ge about fostering “masculine” values ever?
I never did it, but I always thought it was about learning useful skills and confidence, appreciating nature (leave the camp cleaner than you found it) and learning how to work towards your goals.
Those things are not inherently masculine. They’re for everyone.
Trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverent.
Nope, nothing in there about masculine.
This is the right take
He also just tried to remove nooses and swazticas from the military’s recognized hate symbols so this tracks. I fully expect this administration to announce some form of Shitler youth indoctrination program any day now.
He really is insecure.
Pete “I take my foot massages with tongue” Hegseth: “We got rid of all those nasty girls, boys. Come back. Come back, see how friendly we are to friendly little boys. We’re all friendly little boys, just like you.”
Hegseth criticizes Scouting for being “genderless” and for promoting diversity, equity and inclusion.
Imagine thinking this is a BAD thing.
hes always drunk so, you can take his word or not.
Imagine thinking it’s true.
The Boy Scouts of America had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century by way of multiple sexual abuse scandals, a dwindling membership, and repeated bankruptcy.
This isn’t DEI, it’s a desperate appeal for more warm bodies in the program to shore up a dying movement.
It’s BAD in the sense that Scouting has largely become (arguably always had been) an MLM run by and for the benefit of a few connected business savvy insiders. And drawing in more grist for the mill only delays the inevitable failure of this corrupt and sclerotic institution.
It’s BAD in the sense that Scouting has largely become (arguably always had been) an MLM run by and for the benefit of a few connected business savvy insiders.
Could be worse: could be Girl Scouts.
Seriously though, if both Girl Scouts and “Scouting America” suck, is there some other alternative (short of not participating in a scouting-like organization at all)?
The BSA wasn’t Hitler Youth outright while I was in, but there is definitely a “God, Duty, Country” vibe that other scouting organizations around the world left behind or never adopted in the first place. Conservatives liked that, and they hated that they had been making a slow march towards more progressive and less nationalist policy that I bet only hastened after the sexual assault lawsuits bankrupted the national organization.
Hegseth is probably doing this to either pressure Scouting into regressing, or to weaken Scouting in order to spin up a Trump Youth later. There is no shortage of conservative dads unhappy with modern Scouting that would love either outcome.
Yeah that’s why I never really got into the scouts - it felt culty (not that I could articulate that back then.)
A lot of clubs feel culty, especially ones that have a behavioral component. There’s a world of difference between Scouting and a real cult (like MAGA).
It was thick with MLMs and reactionary evangelicalism. Didn’t hurt that the Mormon Church was heavily embedded in the national leadership.
Yup, there were a ton of stories about them kicking out atheists back when I was in it. Being reverent is part of the motto, and some troops took that seriously. Summer camps also had a mandatory religious service too attend. There were options, but you had to go to one of them.
I know from seeing videos of other Scout troops over the years compsred to my own experiences as a Scout that it really depends on the place and the people. All my troop leaders were moms, and it was more or less just after school activities to keep you from being idle and getting up to trouble out of boredom that were also educational.
We didn’t do much of the “culty” things like pledges or whatever. We just did arts, crafts and went camping. Learned how to cook, sew, survive in the woods, first-aid, etc. 🤷♂️
Fuckinnn yikes. Gonna have to watch out for the shitler youth.
How did we get here from the 90s?
Like I’m truly baffled
The CIA’s cocaine and crack fueled 90s. Seems on par to me.
Something about the phrase boy friendly spaces sounds very odd to me. Certainly doesn’t sound like the warrior mentality ole drunk Pete is going for does it?
He should just use “safe spaces.” Much clearer and surely he’d get the full support of everyone who supports this
That’s all they really want guys… They just want a place to be boy friendly.
They picked the right place.
They want to preserve the sanctity of intimate relations between boy scouts and their scoutmasters.
Support of Scouts, like it or not, is Congressionally mandated, and that includes the Pentagon for some events. The exception is national security. Yet another fight that will drag through the courts incoming.
The scouts have come a long way in the past few years. But I imagine most of the adult that make up that organization are republican voters, and you reap what you sow.
Varies wildly by location
Scouts wore their badges on the wrong side. Court martial.
