This means de-facto "Ukraine's capitulation."

Kyiv has been offered a “Kremlin peace plan” under the guise of negotiations. The US and Russia have reportedly prepared a peace plan for Ukraine that would involve Kyiv meeting the Kremlin’s maximalist demands, says Christopher Miller, a correspondent for the Financial Times.

At the same time, Reuters sources report that the US indicated to President Volodymyr Zelenskyy that Kyiv should accept Washington-prepared frameworks for ending the war with Russia. It remains unclear what security guarantees would be given for Kyiv, as there is no evidence that the Kremlin has abandoned its imperial ambitions.

Earlier, Axios wrote that Washington and Moscow were discussing a new peace plan to end Russia’s war against Ukraine.

  • Ferrous@lemmy.mlEnglish
    01·
    24 days ago

    You know you can go enlist, right?

    I think what you meant to say was,

    I for one prefer Ukrainians continue throwing themselves in the grinder

    Despite the fact that,

    More than three years into the war, Ukrainians’ support for continuing to fight until victory has hit a new low. In Gallup’s most recent poll of Ukraine — conducted in early July — 69% say they favor a negotiated end to the war as soon as possible, compared with 24% who support continuing to fight until victory.

    This marks a nearly complete reversal from public opinion in 2022, when 73% favored Ukraine fighting until victory and 22% preferred that Ukraine seek a negotiated end as soon as possible.

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/693203/ukrainian-support-war-effort-collapses.aspx

    Edit: grammar

    • Lysol@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      24 days ago

      These polls are so bad. It’s like asking “would you like peace?”. Ukranians know perfectly well what would happen to them and their relatives if they lost the war. Fighting a war SUCKS but it was not their choice to go to war. It was not their choice to get terror-bombed every single night.

      • Ferrous@lemmy.mlEnglish
        01·
        24 days ago

        It’s like asking "would you like peace?

        It’s actually not like that at all. It’s actually pretty simple:

        Which of the following statements about the war with Russia comes closest to your personal views?

        Ukraine should continue fighting until it wins the war

        Ukraine should seek to negotiate an ending to the war as soon as possible

        Don’t know/Refused

      • Ferrous@lemmy.mlEnglish
        01·
        24 days ago

        What is it with yall refusing to believe any opposing viewpoints are organic?

        Those 69% of Ukranians who want to end the war via negotiation - are they Russian bots as well?

        • Kami@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          1·
          24 days ago

          The fact that they want the war to end doesn’t mean they want to surrender.

          Your cherry picked data means nothing, like your opinion.

          I know… I know… It’s hard to hear but try not to cry if you can…