• pulsewidth@lemmy.world
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    I don’t like Newsom (and am not from the USA), but the context of this Tweet is very clearly a response to Trump and an attack on his behaviour (especially of late), re: insulting/mocking Rob Reiner’s death. His office/PR has regularly used Ronald Reagan’s quotes (as the former hero of the Republicans) to point out how completely embarrassing and perverse Trump’s presidency is to their former ‘ethics’ and values, and to ignore that context as tacit approval for Reagan is disingenuous.

    This article (from a UK publisher) is really clutching at straws.

    Having said all that, personally I think AOC or Bernie would be 100 times better candidates. Original Tweet below.

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    Anything to take him down, he’s becoming too popular. He didn’t fuck any kids on a pedophile island though, so if my choices are pedophiles or a guy who once supported Reagan, I gotta go with the recovering Reagan supporter.

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    I suspect that Gavin would be Ronald Reagan v2.0, if he reaches the oval office. We should strive to get AOC, Mamdani, or even Mark Kelly in there instead.

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    Whoopsie, just another accidental support of fascism. Surely this time he’ll apologize and not do it again, until his podcast needs more clicks.

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    This is barely a fucking article about anything. Don’t fall for this dumb social media garbage bullshit.

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      But it angers the kids, so it’s gospel around here. They’ll be pasting this article in every argument they can manufacture for a least a week or two.

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    Yet again, lemmy refuses to even try and acknowledge the point of the statement and instead manufactures typical outrage over nothing, and judging by the comments- clearly no one even read the article.

    This absolute shit-tier example of garbage journalism states he “praised” Regan, where all he did was quote him. And the quote is entirely irrelevant to the outrage bullshit that the article claims.

    By the way- this is exactly the type of shit that MAGA knows will piss you all off enough to not vote for him. So, be prepared to see a lot more of this shared here.

    Trump couldn’t pay enough for this kind of help.

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      Look, if the only candidates the Democrats can put forward are people who don’t give all that much of a damn about human beings dying… Yeah, I dunno.

      Suggesting that a Republican that killed a bunch of people had the right idea about national pride and unity is just terrible. Normal, but terrible. There are a billion quotes about unity from much better people. Why Reagan?

      I can’t vote for another Democrat who thinks human lives are something to be brushed under the rug. I did it once, but I’m not doing it again. Not after I’ve seen just how dedicated they are to sticking to that.

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      As someone who has lived in California for decades, fuck Newsom and anyone that supports him. He has always been rightist neoliberal scum. If he runs for anything he needs to be ruthlessly crushed in primary long before we reach another two-party false-binary “lesser evil” compromise yet again.

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    Moving to the right in preparation for a POTUS run. It never works and just plays right into the Ruling Party’s hands.

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      Especially since when he was governor, he ordered the army into Berkeley to corral the protesting Boomers, but then when those same Boomers got older and richer, they didn’t want to pay taxes so they embraced him. These same “enlightened educated hippies” have descendants who now make up the tech bros controlling the country and embracing fascism.

      In his last years, he was as demented as Trump, and he killed millions with purposeful inaction on AIDS, much like Trump with COVID.

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      My guess is it’s half same old attempts/mistakes of trying to give a bridge to a way off the MAGA ship. There are A LOT of voters who believe Reagan did good things for the economy, and his economic policy directly conflicts with MAGA’s pro tariff policies.

      It’s not likely to help many Republicans see things as wrong, and is very likely to make possible voters who would vote for a good Democrat candidate to question them.

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        Newsom isn’t exactly a paragon of progressive virtues and certainly would continue to benefit from trickle-down policies.

        It’s not hard to imagine that he actually likes Reagan’s policies here, never mind that his corporate donors gave him his marching orders.

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          Oh I wasn’t saying Newsom would be a good candidate, I was just trying to say they were likely trying the same dumb things. I haven’t seen much of Newsoms policies because I don’t live in California.

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          Which policies has he enacted in CA which mirror or support trickle down? All I ever hear is how he’s not progressive enough, but when I look at his record I see a LOT of progressive action. Much like how he’s “anti trans” for not signing 1 bill, he signed numerous others that year protecting queer people, and now he’s being attacked for being too pro-trans.

          It’s pretty funny watching the left split and splinter this far out, because of all the purity testing. No one will ever be progressive enough, pure enough. And if somehow they were perfect enough to appease the left wing, there’d be 0 chance of getting red votes.

          The next Dem who gets elected will do so using some centrist attitudes including towards social issues which we’re losing on badly. Might be time to get wise to that.

          It’s like the old saying - do you want to be right, or do you want to be happy? Should we wait for the perfect candidate, or should we, IDK, maybe try to win the next election?

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            Which policies has he enacted in CA which mirror or support trickle down? All I ever hear is how he’s not progressive enough, but when I look at his record I see a LOT of progressive action

            Because locking up homeless people is a) totally effective policy making and b) totally progressive.

            more directly, to the economy, his buddy-buddy relationship with the techbros is… obvious.

            • 25 million to help fund a microchip design facility,
            • 85 million on generative ai
            • downsizing a deal with google to protect local-to-ca newsrooms

            while when faced with a ballooning deficit, instead cut healthcare, education, and enviromental programs.

            Further, He dropped the ball on his promises and only signed a small handful of progressive goals. for example, allowing striking union members to collect unemployment benefits. The most common excuse was “oh we can’t necessarily afford that, and employers can’t either.”

            Remember: Tweets are not policy… and all this fun shit trolling trump probably isn’t even him tweeting it. (most likely, he’s only scarcely aware of it at all.)

            It’s pretty funny watching the left split and splinter this far out, because of all the purity testing. No one will ever be progressive enough, pure enough. And if somehow they were perfect enough to appease the left wing, there’d be 0 chance of getting red votes.

            The next Dem who gets elected will do so using some centrist attitudes including towards social issues which we’re losing on badly. Might be time to get wise to that.

            The last november election day, every democratic candidate that won, won on progressive platforms. Specifically, platforms that Newsom has a shitty record on. Your argument cuts both ways.

            Also, how did all those red votes Harris got work out for her? She’s an awesome president- Oh. wait. that’s right SHE FUCKING LOST.

            Do you see how that argument is holding us back? Centrists do not win elections. Alienating your actual base loses elections.

          • UnpledgedCatnapTipper@piefed.blahaj.zone
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            His first podcast guest was Charlie Kirk, and he agreed with him about trans people. He is anti trans. Just because he isn’t advocating for us to be rounded up and put in camps like the Republicans, doesn’t mean he supports trans people.

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      If he would’ve praised Reagan’s economic policy it would’ve at least made sense.

      Running up the deficit and leaving it to the Dems to clean up?