The lower prices stem from the Medicare negotiation program created under the Biden administration’s Inflation Reduction Act.
The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services on Tuesday announced lower prices on 15 costly prescription drugs under Medicare, including Ozempic and Wegovy.
The price cuts come through the Medicare drug price negotiation program created under the Inflation Reduction Act, which Joe Biden signed into law in 2022.
It’s different from Donald Trump’s “most favored nation” drug pricing approach, which relies on executive orders and voluntary deals with drugmakers — not legislation. Trump recently announced such a deal with Novo Nordisk, the maker of Ozempic and Wegovy, to lower the price of the drugs in exchange for tariff relief.
So keep jabbing yourself full of weight loss drugs so you can consume more empty fast food calories.
In the mean time, vaccines bad and should be hidden. It was less than a year ago when the health department made some sense.
https://lemmy.world/post/39338271
Being pro vaccine doesn’t excuse you for using anti-science and prejudice to attack other medications.
That’s what I’m talking about. You’re attacking a medication without understanding it and have an active desire to not understand it. You’ve made up your mind, in ignorance, and are using your prejudice to justify advocating against that thing you refuse to understand.
I see this exact attitude with all sorts of science deniers from Flat Earthers to racists. It makes the world a worse place. Stop it.
Didn’t care about the specifics of a particular one over another. My take is that promoting the ‘fix’ of something via chemical intervention that wasn’t a widespread problem until relatively recently is the wrong approach.
This is not something caused by genetics or some novel disease targeting the USA public, it’s a change in recent decades of our diets and lifestyles.
Pills and shots of any sort are only masking the underlying issue, regardless of their mechanism.
People said LITERALLY the same thing about ADHD. You’re straight up mistaken in your thinking, and you need people like me to tell you that because you refuse to learn about the things your criticizing on your own.
But you’re probably just going to accuse me of bias and ignore me. That’s what all the other science deniers do, too.
You’re going to try and compare lack of understanding about a mental condition to people physically getting wider?
You don’t even understand enough to get why the comparison is relevant.
Bless your heart. My family member who struggles with weight has broken almost every bone in their body and has had two spine surgeries. Chronic pain makes it hard to stay active. This person also eats less than me and is bigger so they clearly have a slower metabolism. The drug makes you feel full a lot quicker so people on it eat a lot less naturally.
The weight loss drugs work by suppressing appetite, so wouldn’t people be eating less fast food on them than off them?
Maybe? I dunno, seems a way for people to treat it as a get out of guilt free card. Some types work as stimulants to promote burning more calories rather than helping minimize intake.
Maybe you should understand how they work before discussing them?
The workings of any particular variant are largely irrelevant.
In effect it still promotes the idea that rather than eat better and live healthier that your problems should be solved with a pill or shot.
Edit: Since diet and exercise are so unpopular here, I’ve yet to see anyone explain how it is that the average obesity rate in the USA has grown so significantly over the past century in anything beyond a ambiguous ‘medical condition’ or ‘genetics’.
The makeup of the human species hasn’t so dramatically evolved over the course of a few generations, that’s simply not how evolution works, but somehow despite supposedly nobody overeating and everyone getting plenty of good exercise we’ve gotten to a point where Americans are globally stereotyped as being big fat slobs.
Oh boy, if you want an honest answer to the whys and hows of the obesity epidemic, well, the truth is “it’s complicated”.
You’d be surprised at how much of it stems from government policy.
In their drive to subsidize the milk and dairy industry, the feds partnered with food companies to figure out ways to stick cheese in fucking EVERYTHING. To the point where feds embedded at pizza joints co-developed the idea of stuffed crust pizza.
https://fee.org/articles/why-does-the-federal-government-have-14-billion-pounds-of-american-cheese-stockpiled/
“To help sell its surplus in the 1990s, the National Dairy Promotion Board created Dairy Management Incorporated, a semi-public marketing branch of the USDA funded through government “checkoff” fees from dairy producers. This agency gave us the “Got Milk?” campaign and a host of popular fast food menu items, including Domino’s seven-cheese pizzas and Taco Bell’s very cheesy Quesalupa. A 2017 Bloomberg Businessweek investigation called the group of chemists and nutritionists the “Illuminati of cheese.” “The checkoff [program] puts DMI’s agents inside Burger King, Domino’s, McDonald’s, Pizza Hut, and Wendy’s, where they’re privy to each restaurant chain’s most closely guarded trade secrets,” writes Clint Rainey.”
But that’s just one angle on the problem, another is the rapid increase in the use of high fructose corn syrup, not just as a sugar replacement, but as an addition to, again, fucking everything.
In the drive for “low fat” foods, producers started adding HFCS to enhance the flavor that was lacking in low fat products.
And, again, federal subsidies for the corn industry is where a lot of this is coming from:
https://www.mountsinai.org/files/ISMMS/Assets/Media/Profiles/MS_OpEd Ad_Obesity_final.pdf
“Consumption of HFCS has increased tenfold since 1974.”
Subsidies like this also drove the federal dietary guidelines rather than actual nutrition. When I was a kid they talked about the “4-4-3-2” plan. Every day, 4 servings of meat or dairy, 4 servings of fruit, 3 servings of vegetables, 2 servings of starch.
That was later replaced by the “Food Pyramid”, and TBH, I have no idea what it is now.
https://farmaction.us/2022/08/04/putting-our-money-where-our-mouths-should-be-the-great-contradiction-between-u-s-food-subsidies-and-dietary-guidelines/
And don’t even get me started on things like “food deserts”, we’ll be here all day:
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20240922/Living-in-food-deserts-during-early-childhood-raises-long-term-obesity-risk.aspx
Which is quite a lot of words to say eating too much no-nutrition highly processed fast food/easy-prep bullshit.
I’m not disagreeing in the least that the mass of HFCS and salt laden garbage is a big driver of it. However, those things only are allowed to become the staples of our diets that they have because people are too complacent and willing to open the freezer rather than do a bit of whole food kitchen work.
I’ve made it a point to learn what I can to avoid the loss of capability to make decent food for ourselves. As I say to my kids, I worry there’ll be a day when Grandma’s famous thanksgiving pie comes in a box from Sarah Lee.
Agreed, but the problem is honest attempts to avoid it. Unless you regularly look at labels, you’d be SHOCKED at all the products this crap is in.
Bread has HFCS. Ketchup. It’s literally everywhere.
Try going down the frozen food aisle at your local grocery store and notice all the stuff has cheese.
Yes, consumption is up, but the reason consumption is up is that it’s ubiquitous. And the reason for it isn’t that people are choosing it, it’s being placed in the products people choose because the government is subsidizing those industries.
It’s super hard to tell people “Well, just make healthier choices” when 80% of available choices are unhealthy or 100% if we’re talking affordable choices.
https://www.fao.org/newsroom/detail/healthy-diets-remain-unaffordable-for-a-third-of-the-world-s-population/en
Tell me you’ve never lived with an overeating problem without telling me. You seem to demonstrate a wild misunderstanding of how willpower and health are or aren’t linked.
Unless those problems are caused by an infectious disease.
There is a sizeable portion of overweight people whose weight issue is NOT overeating.
Get out of here with that judgmental attitude toward what other people do with their bodies.
Drugs like Ozempic have worked for people when nothing else would. And it’s not an easy solution; it can actually be really unpleasant to take these. But the people on it are desperate enough for real solutions to do it. In those cases it’s used in tandem with walking and other weight-appropriate exercise.
I’m thin, by the way. I just can’t stand this kind of thoughtless judgmental attitude. It’s the exact equivalent of talking about welfare queens.
For some, it’s not a poor eating habits, it’s that they have other issues that prevent weight loss.
Look at Oprah, one of the wealthiest women in the world. Undoubtedly has had chefs cooking for her for decades; wasn’t able to fully manage her weight until glp-1 drugs.
I get that might not be who people see using these drugs, but the people who really need these medications are those who have issues preventing them from losing the weight.
I used it as a holdover while getting diagnosed with ADHD, and you are right; it’s not exactly a pleasant experience. I didn’t get the bad nausea that other people reported, but if I ate “wrong” there’d be consequences for sure. But it did help with culling the binge-eating I had long enough to get my ADHD diagnosis and onto medication for that, which has helped my executive function improve to where I was able to stop ozempic and have not reverted back to those bad habits.
Executive function disorders are a bitch for sure.
You don’t want to eat more when you taking a glp1.
They’re one of the few drugs that seem to actually address overeating disorders that people have been unable to manage through other means.