Stephen Miller has erupted at “blatant jury nullification” after a Los Angeles tow truck driver was acquitted of stealing an ICE vehicle in the latest embarrassment for Donald Trump’s Justice Department.
Bobby Nuñez, 33, was charged with theft of government property after towing away a locked ICE SUV—with its keys and firearm secured inside—during a chaotic immigration arrest in downtown Los Angeles on Aug. 15.
Video from the scene showed federal agents chasing the truck as it pulled away, before arresting Nuñez and leading him away in handcuffs.
Pee Wee Himmler better get used to lots and lots of jury nullification. It’s probably why this little asshat is trying to get away with disappearing people with no trial - he hates and despises We, The People.
Jury nullification is the real reasons juries exist. Pass all the corrupt laws and appoint all the corrupt justices you want. As long as we still have trial by jury we have a check on power from the citizens.
This is why I hate people who say they hate being on a jury.
You have the most direct access to affect your society in a jury box than you do at the ballot box.
I live in Texas. Jurors are paid $20/day with no reimbursement for expenses, and employers aren’t required to pay employees on jury duty (though mine does).
So yeah - people hate it.
Also while I would like to be a jury it can be brutal. I had a friend that did grand jury once for 6 months. They were being constantly shown murder scene photos and other graphic imagery. I’d imagine that would bother some people
…they charge more for parking than we’re paid in bexar county…
My state does it. My employer didn’t. And the courthouse was a long way away.
Except in most places you have to suffer financial hardship in order to exercise this ability
Juries exist to determine facts, and check the work of the prosecutor to make sure they proved the case to the standards required by law. They are an essential part of the legal process, and the possibility of nullification is an interesting byproduct.
This case was not nullification. He was charged with theft for towing a car, which is not theft anywhere, and is standard practice for tow truck operators. The vehicle was returned less than 20 minutes later.
Not guilty was a reasonable conclusion, not a case of a jury nullifying an otherwise solid case.
Cotizen juries absolutely exist for jury nullification. Otherwise it would be better to have professionals who are experts in the law making the rulings like judges do in most civil cases.
I was in a jury recently, and they were clear in the instructions that we were to make decisions on the basis of the law as it is, not one what we think it should be. Some of the questions during jury selected were specifically tailored to identifying those who might consider nullification.
Juries still exist in civil cases. They are there to make findings of fact, just like a criminal case. Bench trials are those without a material dispute of the facts.
Nullification is a side effect, a consequence of the process. Nullification is not the primary reason for a jury.
I don’t think the person you’re replying to is disagreeing with you, they’re just pointing out that in this case, the jury didn’t have to nullify an existing law for the tow truck driver to be found not guilty.
a judge can issue a judgment notwithstanding the verdict (JNOV) if they determine that no reasonable jury could have reached the verdict based on the evidence.
So while it is rare the judge can still fuck everyone involved in the case no matter what the jury says.
freedom
In a criminal case, a judge can only overturn a guilty verdict.
thank you both for bringing this up. I never knew that. That’s good to know.
Upon checking into that it looks like you’re right.
“Pee Wee Himmler” is great lol