13! A prime number indivisible into anything. Ugh!

I don’t see any reason to use ubuntu over debian

I do. The last time I tried it, Debian’s installer crashed and left me with a white screen. Imagine telling a newbie to wipe their disk before that happens. Linux has lost a user for life. Debian’s site is still completely archaic, so the pre-installation funnel is going to be a challenge in itself for most people. No way.

To be clear, I used Debian for years, I love their mission and I want it to be the reference FOSS distro. But beginners need hand-holding and Debian is not ready for that yet.

I’m gonna push back against your Ubuntu disparagement. In terms of “pushing” things, Ubuntu’s abuses are really very marginal. Compared to Windows, the difference between Ubuntu and any other distro is vanishingly minimal in this regard. Meanwhile, Ubuntu is undeniably a solid and dependable distro with a 20-year track record behind it. For a beginner that should count for something.