Indeed my friend… Sad state of affairs.

I agree, that’s why I called them non-working socialist states.

My point is we haven’t yet seen how well (or bad) could a socialist state work if left alone.

One reason I can think is we haven’t yet seen a working socialist society, which often fail for external reasons.

For example, the socialist government in Cuba was severely undermined by the USA imposed blockade.

A more recent example is Venezuela, while you can think what you want about its current government, I don’t think USA should interfere with any sovereign nation.

There’s almost like a pattern, like someone, somewhere doesn’t like the idea of socialism to succeed.