Am I the only one here that got really bad experience with nextcloud and didn’t figured how to make it work correctly?
I’m talking about painfully slow login pages, ages to show files, even upgraded hardware with disk entirely capable of saturing full gig network connection and still…
Getting only about ~30ish MB/s when downloading from nextcloud.
Incredly slow document loading with collabora…
Even if my hardware is not new-gen, a app like immich works flawlessly and loads everything instantly.
Is it the fault of next cloud or am I doing something wrong?
Are alternatives like seafile or openCloud better?
Willing your help fellow selfhosters
I run Nextcloud of an NAS appstore. NAS is Asustor Drivestor 4 gen2 - Realtek RTD1619B CPU with 2GB non-expandable DDR4 ram. NAS runs couple of other services like Vaultwarden, Radarr, Sonarr, Uptime Kuma and maybe something else, I dont remember. NAS runs at around 10% CPU and 50% RAM at all times.
Nextcloud isntance is AIO and I have no choice in what type it is. There also are no other good file hosting services but Nextcloud on the app store.
Now the experience: It is slow. Slower than say Google Drive. Login page loads slow but not too slow. I would describe it as sluggish. Like if you run windows 98 file manager on a 5400rpm old drive and you just want to copy couple of files. I went to admin panel and disabled all junk that I will definitely wont run in future. That made it bit faster than before. It works but could be much snappier. Maybe in near future I will move to Opencloud or Owncloud or whatever other services that are similar experience to Nextcloud are.
In my defense, I barely use Nextcloud. It is a nice-to-have option to upload any files that I may find useful to save or/and access later. Therefore, I want to note that sluggishness of Nextcloud doesn’t bother me. But I wish it would be as snappy as Immich is.
I constantly would get files stuck in the database that I couldn’t delete. All of the forum posts would talk about going into the database to fix it, but the whole point of NextCloud for me was to completely avoid database management.
I’ve fallen back to using DUFS or copyparty for most things since I really just needed my file store to be browsable via web in some cases.
I probably would still be using NextCloud if they didn’t obfuscate the file system.
Nectcloud has always been incredible slow for me. (And that’s beside other issues like updates failing more often than succeeding…)
And as I was using it mostly for basic filesharing between my machines and as a CalDAV/CardDAV server I replaced it with Syncthing and Radicale now.
I ran nextcloud for years on good hardware and its always been the weakest self hosted app I have. I moved to seafile for a bit and then ultimately owncloud OCIS.
OCIS is a modern app that is massively better since its written with modern languages / frameworks
I’m one of the people who is happy with my Nextcloud setup (outside of never quite getting only office to work in browser after I hooked it all up to a reverse proxy behind HTTPS), but I always try to keep my eye on developments in the space for a potential better solution. I looked at OCIS a while back, but it didn’t have the quality of life features that I enjoy to make it worth me switching from a working Nextcloud deployment.
Does OCIS have a desktop client that supports on-demand file synchronization (a la OneDrive) rather than just selective folder sync? Does it support storing files as is in a natural directory structure or is everything stored as a flat file blob? Is it able to handle external storage even if that external storage is physical storage on a container mount point?
I had tried in the past and optimized the hell out of it, but I found that’s a really slow software. I appreciate the features, but it looks like they have made a really bad foundation, and built some nice features upon it. Seafile is WAY better performance wise! (but less features). Depending on your needs, the best middleground I’ve found is syncthing between my PC and sftpgo to expose webdav / sftp. There is no lighter setup than that.
Seeing most of the negative comments here noting bare metal etc.
Moving to the AIO build solved literally every issue I had with the single exception being the colabora office stuff.
For the image stuff, basic file, download etc… been great.
The Android app gives me grief, but I suspect that’s my janky Samsung phone killing it’s permissions.
Considering they only officially support the AIO, it’s worth trying that out before passing full judgement. It has flaws, for sure, but it’s immensely complex and the AIO nullifies many of the variables that they can’t otherwise account for easily.
I’m also here on AIO with a great experience. It’s snappy and the website loads faster than Onedrive ever did.
I had a docker install prior to AIO being available, and there was a lot of tweaking to get it running nicely (though it did run nicely). AIO takes care of it all for you.




