Article translation to English:

It is “in the interest of the United States and Europe” that the European Union be dissolved". That is what Nile Gardiner, director of the European branch of the Heritage Foundation, says to Nieuwsuur. That conservative think tank is known as the main shaper of the policies of US President Donald Trump’s second term.

The Trump administration supports “movements and political leaders in Europe” who are “pro-American and believe that Europe should take a different direction,” Gardiner says. This concerns leaders of Italy, Poland and Hungary, who see the conservative thinker as “important allies.”

In February, Vice President J.D. Already sharply criticized Europe. This summer , further indications came to light that the U.S. is out on a change of power.

According to the new U.S. security strategy, which was published this month, Europe is in danger of “losing its civilization through immigration and the disappearance of national identities.” The document praises nationalist parties “who want to preserve the individual character and history of European countries” and supports patriotic parties in their struggle to dismantle the EU from within.

In response, European Commissioner for Human Rights called on Michael O’Flaherty to take courage against US criticism of the EU. European heads of government reacted remarkably little. German Chancellor Friedrich Merz was fierce and called the plan “unacceptable and unacceptable.”

The chairman of the committee in the European Parliament that maintains contact with the US called the security strategy “a frontal attack on the EU.” The words of the White House, according to him, amount to interference in European elections. ‘Warning for Europe’

From right-wing parties, there is also a positive reaction to the American policy paper. Member of the European Parliament Mieke Andriese (PVV) calls it a “clear strategic warning for Europe” this week. “Mass immigration threatens our European identity.”

Member of the European Parliament Sander Smit (BBB), a member of a committee for strengthening European democracy, can also agree with parts of the American criticism. “BBB does not support the abolition of the EU, but believes that the EU urgently needs internal reforms because of a democratic deficit, diminishing legitimacy and too much bureaucracy,” he tells Nieuwsuur. Read his entire response here.

Nile Gardiner is now going a step further with his plea for the abolition of the EU. “I don’t see any future scenario where Europe is better off with the survival of the European Union than without.”

There are “deep-rooted concerns in the US capital Washington about what is seen as the suppression of freedom of expression within the European Union,” says Gardiner. The EU would have too much power over the member states.

The conservative thinker points, among other things, to the fines that the European Commission handed out to the social medium X, owned by tech billionaire and ex-Trump adviser Elon Musk. The fines totalled 120 million euros and were imposed for violations of an internet law. With these types of “attacks on U.S. tech companies,” the EU would undermine US security.

Moreover, the Union would not listen to the voice of the people and restrict the power of right-wing radical parties such as the AfD. And the EU would open the gates for mass migration. Gardiner fears the increasing influence of Islam. “All this makes the EU doomed.” ‘Europe reacts too weakly’

According to the leading Irish researcher Judy Dempsey (Carnegie Institute), the European Union is responding too weakly and too slowly to the Trump administration’s lashing out. “The Europeans don’t look at themselves, but just say: don’t you dare criticize our democracy.”

Dempsey, who is researching international relations, argues that the EU does not use its large internal market sufficiently as a geopolitical instrument. “The EU is not confident and knows how to sell itself poorly.”

Trump is responding to this by politically influencing and dividing Europe, the researcher says. “The idea that a divided EU would be in US favour is at odds with the transatlantic view that has been in place since 1945.”

“The weakness of Europeans is that they do not confront far-right populist parties, whether in France, the Netherlands, Germany or Italy.”

According to Gardiner, the plan to turn the EU into a defense force clashes with US interests. “This undermines the NATO alliance, while it pulls military resources away,” he says. “NATO will hopefully exist for centuries to come, but the EU will eventually disappear.”

The U.S. under Trump supports right-wing nationalist parties in Europe that “insist on more sovereignty and self-determination,” Gardiner says. He mentions, among others, Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, Polish President Karol Nawrocki and the party president of France’s Rassemblement National, Jordan Bardella. Gardiner emphasizes that it is about political support; there would be no question of financial aid. Discussion within the Heritage Foundation

The Heritage Foundation is an independent right-wing conservative think tank in Washington. They developed ‘Project 2025’, policy proposals that the government is now implementing. Nile Gardiner is the director of the Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom, the European branch of The Heritage Foundation.

The extreme course that the Heritage Foundation has been pursuing since this year leads to ideological discussions within the institute: in recent weeks, some fifteen employees left the institute. Disagreements included stopping support for Ukraine and the controversial tariff policy that President Trump is pursuing. Heritage director Kevin Roberts also initially refused to condemn statements by the far-right, anti-Semitic influencer Nick Fuentes.


Discussions on Reddit about the Heritage Foundation with one saying that the think tank was founded by former Nazis or at least has remote connections to Nazis.

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    I think most EU members have looked at the UK over the last few years and gone “know what? i think we’ll stay”

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    better, more sensical translation, by DeepL.com, I’m doing it piece by piece, with a couple of comments thrown-in:


    It is “in the interests of the United States and Europe” that the European Union be dissolved. That is what Nile Gardiner, director of the European branch of the Heritage Foundation, told Nieuwsuur. This conservative think tank is known as the main architect of US President Donald Trump’s second-term policy.

    ( converting countries to oligarchy, then… https://www.project2025.observer/en which may no-longer be getting updated, for whatever reason, & https://www.factcheck.org/2024/09/a-guide-to-project-2025/ gives a little taste of the ideology-policy )

    The Trump administration supports “movements and political leaders in Europe” who are “pro-American and believe that Europe must take a different direction,” Gardiner said. These include leaders from Italy, Poland, and Hungary, whom the conservative thinker sees as “important allies.”

    In February, Vice President J.D. Vance already voiced sharp criticism of Europe. This summer, further indications emerged that the US is seeking a change of power.

    ( political-interference in national politics? isn’t that illegal? )


    I cannot see any future scenario in which Europe would be better off with the European Union than without it.

    Nile Gardiner


    According to the new US security strategy, published this month, Europe is in danger of “losing its civilization through immigration and the erosion of national identities.” The document praises nationalist parties “that seek to preserve the individual character and history of European countries” and supports patriotic parties in their struggle to dismantle the EU from within.

    ( notice that a strengthening EU-identity is unthinkable to these agents )

    In response, European Commissioner for Human Rights Michael O’Flaherty called for courage in the face of US criticism of the EU. European government leaders responded with remarkable silence. German Chancellor Friedrich Merz was fierce, calling the plan “unacceptable and inadmissible.”

    ( silence is accommodation, among humankind… dangerous method to use )

    The chair of the European Parliament committee that maintains contact with the US called the security strategy “a frontal attack on the EU.” According to him, the White House’s words amount to interference in European elections.

    ( THAT one gets it. )

    ‘Warning for Europe’

    Right-wing parties have also responded positively to the American policy document. MEP Mieke Andriese (PVV) called it a “clear strategic warning for Europe” this week. “Mass immigration threatens our European identity.”

    ( sigh half true: immigration isn’t handled correctly: you have to have people sign their agreement that the country outranks their-religion, & that they’re NOT going to try highjacking the country for their religion, something like that, & then you’ve got leverage to deport the country-highjackers )


    MEP Sander Smit (BBB), member of a committee for strengthening European democracy ( I think that is this link: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/committees/nl/euds/home/highlights ), also agrees with parts of the American criticism. “BBB does not support abolishing the EU, but believes that the EU urgently needs internal reforms due to a democratic deficit, declining legitimacy, and excessive bureaucracy,” he told Nieuwsuur. Read his full response here.

    https://bijlagen.nos.nl/artikel-24247524/Reactie_Sander_Smit_op_uitspraken_Nile_Gardiner.pdf


    Nile Gardiner is now going a step further with his plea for the abolition of the EU. “I cannot see any future scenario in which Europe would be better off with the European Union than without it.”

    There are “deep-rooted concerns in the US capital Washington about what is seen as the suppression of freedom of expression within the European Union,” says Gardiner. The EU has too much power over its member states, he argues.

    The conservative thinker points, among other things, to the fines imposed by the European Commission on social media platform X, owned by tech billionaire and former Trump advisor Elon Musk. The fines totaled €120 million and were imposed for violations of an internet law. With these kinds of “attacks on American tech companies,” the EU is undermining American security.

    ( so, it’s actually EU-sovreignty-from-the-US that is offensive/intolerable to the US? … Gaslighting, as usual )

    Furthermore, the Union would not listen to the voice of the people and would limit the power of right-wing radical parties such as the AfD. And the EU would open its doors to mass migration. Gardiner fears that this would lead to the increasing influence of Islam. “All of this means that the EU is doomed.”

    ( LMAO: highjacking by far-right is obliged, but highjacking by Islam isn’t?? Only others’ highjacking, not their highjacking, that’s problematic, then, I see! )


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    ‘Europe’s response is too weak’

    According to leading Irish researcher Judy Dempsey (Carnegie Institute), the European Union’s response to the Trump administration’s attacks is too weak and too slow. “Europeans are not looking at themselves, but simply saying: don’t you dare criticize our democracy.”

    Dempsey, who researches international relations, argues that the EU is not making sufficient use of its large internal market as a geopolitical instrument. “The EU is not confident and does not know how to sell itself.”

    Trump is capitalizing on this by influencing and dividing Europe politically, says the researcher. “The idea that a divided EU would be to the advantage of the US is at odds with the transatlantic vision that has prevailed since 1945.”

    “The weakness of Europeans is that they do not confront far-right populist parties, whether in France, the Netherlands, Germany, or Italy.”

    ( spot-on, Dempsey! )


    According to Gardiner, the plan to turn the EU into a defense force conflicts with American interests. “This undermines the NATO alliance while diverting military resources,” he says. “NATO will hopefully exist for centuries to come, but the EU will eventually disappear.”

    ( notice how this sets-up the destruction of the EU when Trump GUTS NATO: Russia will then have a more completely unprepared EU to butcher, as Trump wants…

    Here is evidence that the Trump-regime’s gutting/ditching NATO isn’t just my belief, for the last decade or so: https://www.lee.senate.gov/2025/6/lee-introduces-withdrawal-from-nato )

    Under Trump, the US supports right-wing nationalist parties in Europe that “insist on more sovereignty and self-determination,” says Gardiner. He mentions, among others, Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, Polish President Karol Nawrocki, and the party chairman of France’s Rassemblement National, Jordan Bardella. Gardiner emphasizes that this is political support; there is no question of financial aid.

    ( interesting: I hadn’t understood that the right had already-won in some countries )

    some links from that last bit…

    https://commission.europa.eu/document/download/e6d5db69-e0ab-4bec-9dc0-3867b4373019_en?filename=White+paper+for+European+defence+–+Readiness+2030.pdf

    https://nos.nl/artikel/2563896-meloni-bezoekt-trump-met-hoop-dat-goede-band-helpt-tegen-heffingen

    https://nos.nl/artikel/2581156-nieuwe-poolse-president-nawrocki-trekt-eigen-plan-en-zegt-veel-nee

    https://nos.nl/collectie/13972/artikel/2522387-jordan-bardella-is-voor-eu-verkiezingen-nieuwe-politieke-ster-in-frankrijk

    ( if anybody here can communicat in Dutch, please ask the site that this article is of, if they could please use DeepL to INCLUDE the entire English-speaking-world in their readership??

    They’re pointing-out important things, & it isn’t only Science which is balkanized by language, it is civil-rights, too! )


    ( here’s the last grey-text-block )

    Discussion within the Heritage Foundation

    The Heritage Foundation is an independent right-wing conservative think tank in Washington. They developed ‘Project 2025’, policy proposals that the government is now implementing. Nile Gardiner is the director of the Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom, the European branch of The Heritage Foundation.

    The extreme course that the Heritage Foundation has been pursuing since this year has led to ideological discussions within the institute: in recent weeks, some fifteen employees have left the institute. Differences of opinion included the cessation of support for Ukraine and President Trump’s controversial tax policy. Heritage director Kevin Roberts also initially refused to condemn statements made by the far-right, anti-Semitic influencer Nick Fuentes.

    This summer, Nieuwsuur investigated how the Trump administration was already actively interfering in the political future of the European Union:

    ( then there’s a video )


    I used https://www.deepl.com/en/translator to give me sensical English rendition of the article, because some Asian Redditor identified that it was the ONLY choice which worked for the languages that they knew, & I figured they’d be more competent to judge its effectiveness than I, an English-only person would…

    Since then, years ago, it’s helped clarify things that other translators botch, badly.

    ( Firefox’s translation can be … incompetent )


    This all brings-up a point:

    IF the EU isn’t willing to oppose the far-right, THEN the EU’s going to be ruled by far-right.

    Same as 1930’s Germany & 2024+ US…

    in which case the population-reduction happening in The Great Filter, throughout the rest of this-century, is going to … cut-down more Europeans … than I’d assumed.

    ( you can’t earn your viability/survival, when you’re allowing narcissist-nihilists to rule )

    That it was going to be cutting-down people among the Americas, among Asia, & among the Middle-East & Africa, was obvious.

    But I’d wrongly presumed that the EU would be certain to stand for its life against narcissist-nihilism.

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  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    As an American:

    Are GIGN or KSK or GROM exceedingly busy at the moment?

    If not, I politely suggest that ya’ll “politely suggest” that the Heritage Foundation should be abolished.

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        … and my politely suggested “polite suggestion” could help swing that balance back into sanity.

        Assuming it is done “politely” enough.

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    Europa should consider pulling the plug on their failed America’s colonies project. Britain, Spain, and France have let the hole run far past it’s use-by date

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    Haha.

    Got any more lame jokes?

    The fuckers simply can’t stand that they can’t bully Europe as much as they want to. Their only hope is to divide and conquer.

    Fucking idiots. EVERYONE can see from miles away what they’re trying to do and what their agenda is.

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    i, on behalf of most americans, would like to call for the shutdown of heritage foundation, and also for all funding to that organization to be redirected to the democratic socialists of america. merry holidays, everyone! seriously.

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    In other breaking news…they also want Saturn’s’ rings moved to Jupiter because they control both the EU and the planets. Delusions of Grand Jury.

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        Our imagination: a borderless world of small, self-governed regions which have no need for armies or national security because everyone depends on everyone else.

        The reality: Roving warbands, a constantly shifting map as cities burn. Almost instantaneous reestablishment of large alliances for security.

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    Everything the heritage foundation wants will lead to war

    Civil War in the US and World War everywhere else

    The are the worst people that currently exist, and that list includes Vladimir Putin

    They are worse

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    Fuck Heritage foundation. Me and all me EU homies hate heritage foundation. The EU is the best thing that has happened to colonial and war-ravaged European continent that’s just peacefully existing and defending itself right now.

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        imo, inevitably it will. Brexit has been a disaster that is finally being acknowledged. just need to get a wrangle on the grifters and propaganda.

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      Bro when will you acknowledge that EU is another imperialist piece of shit that needs to be dismantled? Just the same shit as the US empire. Fuck thr European Union imperialism.

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        Fuck You! Because of the existence of the EU I get to do trade more easily and support my family and have an existence on this land! Because of EU regulations and pressures my country is less corrupt! Because of EU funds I was able to actually start my business! Without the EU I couldn’t enjoy the life I have today!

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        Better than pretty much every other big group right now. Like what are the alternatives? Russia’s trying to take over the world, China’s trying to… take over the world a bit more subtly, America… oh right yeah they’re trying that too while somehow screwing it up beyond belief. Obviously this is simplified but I’m probably wasting my time here cause .ml

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        One of EUs biggest members left the EU a few years ago by democratic means. How is that imperialist?

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          WOW there’s literally FIVE countries being attacked in the Middle East!

          And your little skirmish in “Europe”, would it be between two non-European countries that are both populated by exactly the same people?

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            I know I’m wasting my time, since you are clearly an undedicated moron, BUT, FYI, both Russia and Ukraine are in Europe.

            BOTH countries also share a border with many EU and NATO members. Yet somehow it’s not a threat??

            Maybe go read about Russian history, just not from Russian books and you will learn what a twisted evil country that is and it absolutely CANNOT be trusted to not invade any other of its neighbours.