• Hegar@fedia.io
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    led crowds in chants of “free, free Palestine” and “death, death to the IDF” [The BBC said:] “The antisemitic sentiments expressed by Bob Vylan were utterly unacceptable … " [Starmer said:] “appalling hate speech.”

    “Free Palestine” is not antisemitic. Criticism of a nation state’s armed forces is not antisemitic. Especially when those armed forces are objectively committing genocide.

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      I’m sure “death to the IDF” is what some people have issues with rather than “free Palestine”

      chanting death for any group idendity en mass will always be controversial, even if it’s for Nazis

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        No, chanting death to Nazi was never controversial. It wouldn’t even be controversial if it was death to the Russian army .

        You are denying Palestinians right to self defense by opposing the chant death to the IDF

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          You’re bubbled, it’s undeniably controversial to chant death to people, especially groups of people. By debating it you agree it’s controversial, do you even know what the word means?

          Please don’t try to say I’m denying Palestinans the right to self defence because I don’t want to chant death to their oppressors. My friend, that’s a wild statement and you should pipe down

          Next you’re going to tell me I’m pro Russia because I don’t agree Putin should be assassinated

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              I never said that, I don’t think that. I have no idea why you came up with that.

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                  How did you go from talking about an English artist performing in England, chanting towards an English crowd about killing foreign army, to asking if I support defending your own nation aganst invaders

                  Do you think I’m supporting the horrors of the IDF because I refuse to stand up and chant death to the IDF?

                  I go to free palistine protests in my own country, I probably do more than most but I draw the line at calling for murder.

                  Extremeism is scary

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                    How stupid can you be. You want paleatinians do do nothing when the idf is comiting all the crimes? Death to idf can only happen in palestine where they have the right to kill invaders

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        5 months ago

        I guarantee you can find droves of zionists that say “free Palestine” implies the destruction of Israel and is therefore antisemitic.