I buy music on Bandcamp to support artists and then stream music via my own Plex server
BLESSED
Moved to Tidal. Reviews from some tech-site said “It’s like Spotify 10 years ago.” as if that’s a bad thing.
Loving the FLAC quality and non-enshittification.
Tidal lost me immediately when it took 3 months for them to recognize my cancelation of my subscription.
Tidal didn’t work when I had all my privacy settings enabled. It straight up didn’t work on the browser on Linux while blocking trackers. If I can’t run your app with full blocker settings, then I am not going to run your app.
Umm
Umm what? That I wasn’t happy I got charged three months for a service I repeatedly cancelled?
I think the confusion is that you basically said “Tidal lost me when they lost me.”
I canceled to shift my charge date originally. Then it became permanent
I’m saying I don’t have $0.0003
Oh my god did you guys just steal my music?! You each owe me $0.003 !!!
I got half a quesadilla and a shiny rock
Well, at least the datahoarders can preserve some things when it all goes to shit…
90% of Spotify is trash. Much like Audible, it’s just choking on AI generated content and similar worthless vanity projects
Did not see this coming when I built my 40TB NAS
I’m building my first Linux setup and have a NAS planned out. I’m so stoked. I got a raspberry pi kit from my dad as an Xmas gift yesterday.
I also used a raspberry pi (5). People here will advise against it but for me it’s been working fine so far. I can stream 4K with Jellyfin on my local network just fine. Read/write speeds aren’t great but good enough for me. I used a Pi hat with 5x SATA ports and I have 5x 8TB HDDs in a custom 3D printed enclosure and I’m using ZFS RAID z1. No complaints yet.
Get to acquiring Seagate external HDDs and shucking them for your own 3.5" drive bays before the data centers get them
Sadly my wallet is on time out
The 20TB drives I was looking at in July are up 40% :/
Pc guys haven’t had a break in like 7 years. One component or another is the hottest item for one scam or another.
That’s disgusting. Where would you find such torrents?
“address not found”
Get better DNS
Nah, checked Wikipedia. Germany is one of the countries that entirely blocks the site.
Luckily I live in Denmark, and Denmark doesn’t block the archive. So when I’m back home I’ll certainly be checking it out.
Not all of Germany. There is this one for example, works like a charm:
The fact that annas archive exists despite how fucked up everything is right now gives me hope. Every time I start to feel cynical about the future I remind myself that there’s people out there working to preserve the art and culture of our modern era with all the most powerful corporations and governments working against them, and they’re succeeding.
Anyway, thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
100%
…and Archive.org
The album art torrent is a goldmine. Such a pain in the ass sometimes to find high quality album covers.
Have they actually been indexed?
None of these are audio torrents.
That’s not released yet.
People are saying it’s 300TB but this link is only 200GB why?
The 200GB is the metadata sqlite database only
God damn! That’s essentially just text, right? Or would it also include album cover art?
Basically, the id3 tags for the music files. However, Spotify uses several more nonstandard tags in their database, some of them are great to make playlists.
Not released yet
cue Padme
‘And avoid it?’ — ‘To avoid it, right?!’
It would be awesome if we had an app that allowed to stream directly from such torrents, and had a user-made recommendation system to replace the discovery algorithm :D
Stremio + Torrentio does this for TV but I haven’t found an equivalent for music. Hoping to be proven wrong 🤞
Something as easy as stremio but for music. Connect to listenbrainz instead of trakt. Then only serve from the spotify collection because of their extensive metadata. With multi device sign in and syncing like stremio. Then a Kodi add on for the libreelec people.
i need a subscribe button for this
Whoever knows the answer, or when one is developed, someone please ping us all in this thread? thanks mate
Datahoarders are going to go WILD over this
data hoarders already have everything in here and far more, and the web release versions are a lower priority. thinking of red.sh here
I don’t think many data hoarders are sitting on the AI generated stuff 😁
That’s nothing compared to my old Napster collection
Fuck Lars.
Saw them live 3 times before that shit. Never listened to a single song since.
Let’s put it all on a Funkwhale server.
Sure, you set it up.
Dang. You called me out on my bullshit.
Anna’s the GOAT
Sounds more like the pirate queen.
As far as I’ve read, the database is largely low bitrate files, and some AI. The value here is metadata and preservation of “rare” music.
Nope, I would not call 160kbps Vorbis low bitrate, it’s roughly quality of 192kbps MP3. Only the ”popularity=0” stuff (so stuff with so few listens that Spotify does not keep record of) were re-encoded to 75kbps Opus, which as a modern codec is much better than it sounds like but of course re-encode is not great for already lossless stuff.
For purists there are those Tidal downloader sites available everywhere for free lossless music, even 24-bit hires FLAC.
Opus is what I’m encoding my working library to. I like ripping to flac (and archiving them as such), but the advantages to smaller file sizes for the working library are worth it for me. So far, I’m really liking the format.
I keep the archive on spinning hard drives, but the opus library on ssd (which makes browsing much quicker, and no unnecessary spinning up the hard drives.)
All tracks within the top 99.6% of listens are supposed to be high quality
It’s not lossless but current ogg vorbis at 160kbps is absolutely transparent for the vast majority of people. That’s actually what I chose to keep my own collection, I mean, outside of the lossless albums that I absolutely want to flawlessly preserve.
Wasn’t all of this shit already available as torrents?
You could hand pluck grains of rice out of a field or just steal a 25lb bag.
Which would you prefer?
In case of this, definitely the grains.
Most of this rice is not worth stealing :D
When the 25lb bag is mostly weavels?
You of all people should know how to spell that word correctly.
deleting my account
No.
Not everything got torrented after music streamers came into prominence. (Though chances are pretty good you could rip an MP3 off Youtube for whatever you’re looking for.)
Ripping Mp3s off YouTube Music Videos is without a doubt the worst method of piracy I’ve ever heard of.
But you have heard of it
Beat me to it, ya scalliwag.
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Nope. Install metube on your PC. Give it the link to your YouTube music playlist. It will download the playlist into your local “Music” folder in the background. Install syncthing and it will push your music folder to your backups and phone.
To add new songs, simply save it on YouTube to your music playlist and it will be downloaded to your devices soon.
I think they’re making a Pirates of the Caribbean joke.
And I am Guybrush Threepwood, mighty music pirate!
Is this new? Aren’t most tracks already available in torrents?
Yep, most of tracks were already available on “various” sources, but this time they directly scraped the whole Spotify database.
It’s really nice from them to backup Spotify database on a distributed system, and for free ! This ensure Spotify business won’t be endanger in case of critical hardware failure.
So nice of them to help with Spotify’s off-site backup.
It’s new insofar as this is one big scrape. About 300TB iirc.
300tb is a lot, but its kind of crazy to think this entire company only needs 300tb storage arrays to function. I wonder how they handle things internally. I would imagine at least 1 backup server ready to go in HA. I wonder if they have multiple regions across the country that also serves up the same setup.
Likely cloned Netflix’s “netflix in a box” design, where they drop a large 200TB+ NAS in thousands of different CDN datecenters with their most popular content cached so that total traffic is minimal across the internet at large.
Spotify mainly being music with very little video likely makes this even easier.
They need other 300TB to store all the ads.
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And now back to the Bro Jogan Experience.
IIRC there’s still like 700TB of low popularity music missing, but it is only something like 0.4% of listens.
And they need a more storage overall because they have to set up datecenters around the world - doesn’t make sense to stream tens of millions of connections across the ocean. But that also gives all the backups one would need for “free”.Afaik 300 TB is just the most popular music and around a third of all tracks. The blog post on anna’s is quite entertaining tho.
There are 245 TB ssd drives now. You can almost fit that in a single drive.
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Oh I know, I work in the industry as well. Our company backups alone for workstations and servers is just under 1 petabyte. This is then replicated to an offsite location which is also out disaster recovery location, and also stored in long term storage in Azure. This is just backups, sooo much money for backups haha. Thats why I am shocked that this entire company can run off of 300tb which is a lot, but nothing when you think of it being the entire business model for them.
I think the craziest thing ive seen is we have these instruments that do genome testing and sequencing and they would create like 10tb worth of data per month. Every month they got there own 10tb drive handed to them to backup their stuff on there own on top of the ones we did for them.
Not mine, because I’m not famous enough for people to pirate my music lol. It would be flattering for me to be included in this batch of scraped music.
I’d steal your music
If your Spotify popularity is not 0, you probably are in the scraped archive.
